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Q & A: Who Develops Leaders At Your Church?
My friend Che Chowan from Church on the Rock in Ocho Rios, Jamaica (yep, that’s me and him in the pic, taken at a recent seminar I did in Florida) sent in this question from the Ask Nelson button on the right —->
“Hey Nelson. Good blog.Do you personally disciple a group in your church for leadership
development, outside of your staff? If so, what does that look like?”Short Answer: I used to, now I focus almost exclusively on staff development.
Long Answer: I believe you need to be developing leaders at all levels of your church. Here’s how the flow works (in an ideal world. Unfortunately, that’s not the world I live in, but this is what we try to do):
• I develop myself
(If I’m not growing, its doubtful anyone else will be)• I develop the staff and teach them to develop themselves and others
The staff then takes responsibility to develop the following (with my help):
• High Capacity Volunteers
• Regular Volunteers
• Church-at-Large
Right now I focus primarily on the staff although I do leadership development with High Capacity Volunteers at key gatherings (such as Growth Group Leaders Training) but month to month this is done by our staff, mainly through reading and discussing books together or going to events like The Leadership Summit.We try to do a little bit of Leadership Training each week with our regular volunteers before they begin their weekly volunteering or through scheduled emails that highlight certain leadership skills.
If you are leading a church of 250 people or less then you may have do leadership development with all the levels above. Beyond 250, you have to share the leadership development process.
One last note: I think of leadership development as ‘helping people be better people’ (core leadership principles, time management, etc.) and I think of ministry development as ‘helping people do their ministry job at church better.’ You need both but this question was about developing leaders. Make sure each gets the time and focus needed – don’t try to do them both at the same time.
Thanks for the question Che!
If you have a question, send it my way. I’ll do my best to answer it.
Nelson Searcy
P.S For more on a proven system to develop yourself as a leader, check out my “Developing A One Year Personal Growth Plan.” Growing churches are led by growing leaders.
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Charles Arn - Church Growth Hero (If I Dare Say ‘Church Growth’)
Last Saturday, while Kelley and I were in Los Angeles, I was able to meet one of my Church Growth Heroes - Charles (Chip) Arn of Church Growth, Inc. He and his wife Ann were gracious enough to share dinner with me and Kelley at Kate Mantinlini’s in Beverly Hills (yep, we were living it up!).
Win Arn, Charles’ father, was one of the founders of the Church Growth Movement in America and he has greatly influenced my thinking about church. I’ve read everything from Win and Charles that I can find and I always discover something helpful.
Here’s some of my favorite books:
- The Masters Plan for Making Disciple by Win and Charles Arn
- How to Start a New Service by Charles Arn
- How to Grow a Church by Donald A. McGavran and Win Arn
(you’ll have to find it used, its out of print)
Part of our conversation was how ‘church growth’ is a watered down phrase and is often derided term in many circles today.
Chip responded that one of the reasons Donald McGavran (the founder of the Church Growth Movement) and his father, Win, went with the term ‘church growth’ in their initial writings (over 40 years ago) was that ‘evangelism’ had become such a watered down term in many circles.
I always suspected that Rick Warren chose the term ‘church health’ in his book The Purpose Driven Church, because ‘church growth’ had become such a watered down term.
So what term should we use? I still prefer to use ‘church growth’ and ‘evangelism’ but I’m always open to the term that best communicates to today’s leaders (as long as it retains the heart of reaching and disciplining people in the most biblical and effective way possible).
Chip, thanks for the time over dinner!
Nelson Searcy
P.S. For today only, in honor of Chip Arn, I’m going to give away a copy of my “Starting A Second Service” resource - use the Ask Nelson button on the right to request your free copy (I’ll send you the details by reply email). This offer is only good on April 29, 2008. After that, you can pick it up here
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Leaders Have a Small Rearview Mirror
This weekend Kelley and I had a little get away in Los Angeles. On Friday we drove down to Orange County to meet friends, visit Saddleback Church (where I was on staff for a couple of years) and check out our old neighborhood.
On this trip, I was reminded of a thought that’s been bouncing around in my head for several months. I’m not sure that its original with me but here it is:
Leaders have a small rearview mirror.
By this I mean that leaders spend only minor time looking back and major time looking forward.
Looking back has advantages:
* To learn the lessons so you don’t repeat them again
* To get better
* To be grateful for how God has worked in your life
and many other benefits. But overall, a leader should spend minimal time in the past. I’ll try to expand on this in the future, but I welcome your feedback.
The bottom line from last Friday: Kelley and I had a blast revisting our old neighborhood, visiting old friends and rehearsing old memories. We are grateful for the time we spent in SoCal. But our focus is really on the present and the future. As we drove back to LA, we prayed and thanked God for what He is doing in our lives now and spent some time dreaming about what the future might hold. New York City is our present and our future.
A rearview mirror is a great tool but if you want to get somewhere you’ve got to keep your eyes chiefly on the road ahead.
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Church Growth Requires Action
“There are risks and costs to a plan of action. But they are far less than the long-range risks and costs of comfortable inaction.” — John F. Kennedy, 35th President of the United States
What action do you need to take this week (maybe something you’ve been putting off until conditions are perfect) that will benefit you, your church and your community?
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The Two Questions That Can Change Everything
“Day after day the congregations became stronger in faith and larger in size.” - Acts 16:5
When I read this passage in Acts it struck my with the power of its’ clarity. These congregations that Paul and Timothy visited grew BOTH stronger in faith AND larger in size. Those are the questions I need to regularly ask about The Journey Church.
- 1) Are the people who attend The Journey stronger in faith than they were 6 months ago?
- 2) Is The Journey larger in size than it was 6 months ago?
If the answer to either of these questions is “no,” then something (maybe everything) needs to change.
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When to Challenge the System
Jay Curlee in Corpus Crisiti, who works with my friend Bil Cornelius, got me thinking about systems today (its not that hard to do - ha! I talk, speak and write a lot about church systems as most of you know). Here’s what he asked:
“Progress demands change. It demands a leader who seeks to push through the chaos of change as they drive to the next level. What process should you be challenging right now?”
There are at least three times when you need to courageously challenge the systems of your church, they are:
* After a ’season of growth’
* During a ’season of stagnation’
During each of these times we to challenge the systems in our church or else atrophy will set in.
It’s easy to challenge the system during ’stagnation’ and ‘testing’ but the hardest time to challenge the system is following a ’season of growth.’
But ‘a season of growth’ is the most important time to challenge, re-evaluate and revision because if you don’t you’ll enter a season of stagnation by default.Challenging the systems doesn’t mean that you change the Eight Systems of A Church but it does mean you innovate from within, re-evaluate the staffing of each system and imporve the systems so they can take you to the next level.
For a great resource on ‘challenging the systems’ from a non-church but yet critical leadership perspective, see The Leadership Challenge by Kouzes and Posner
Nelson
P.S. I just finished a new special report with my latest thinking on Church Systems, its tentatively titled “Healthy Church, Healthy Systems.” I’ll be giving it away right here on the blog in a couple of weeks (I know, sorry for the tease, but I’m very excited about it!). In the meantime, you can listen to one of my most popular podcasts on Church Systems by clicking here.
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Sometimes you gotta pull away
If you’ve listened to my Developing A One Year Personal Growth Plan resource then you know I’m a big fan of pulling away. Pulling away for a time of relaxation, recovery and renewal. There are several key times to pull away, including:
- Every week (your sabbath)
- Every year (your vacation)
- After a busy ministry season
This last one is what I’m doing. We’ve been running hard without much of a break since well before Easter so Kelley and I are pulling away for a five day weekend. We are heading out to Los Angeles and the grandparents are keeping Alexandar (who is almost two years old btw).
I’m flying from JFK to LAX at 7:30pm today on Virgin Atlantic. It’s a brand new airline in the area that promises to overcome some of the many challenges facing fliers like me and you (larger seats, better service, less stress, electrical outlets in the seats and wireless internet access coming soon). So far, I have to say I’m very impressed with the treatment I’ve received! I’ll let you know how I feel after the 6 hour flight.Big Question: When are you scheduled to pull away? By yourself? With only your spouse? With only your family? You gotta pull away sometimes (if I recall, even Jesus modeled it!).
Gotta run, I’m going to go pull an “Aladdin Factor” and see if I can get upgraded to First Class . . . you don’t know if you don’t ask!
Nelson Searcy
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What a Great Webinar!
Thank you to the 62+ people who were part of today’s Fusion Webinar. I had a blast being with you. We received over 370 questions! I’ll try to answer as many as I can on the blog in the near future (hopefully some of them will be the same question!).
For those on the call today, here’s a link to the Connection Card Script we mentioned (just right click the link and choose save as, its a Word Document)
For those of you who want the PowerPoint we used, its a large file but you can download it here (right click here and choose save as, its a Microsoft PowerPoint document)
Finally, if you missed the Listeners Guide, you can get it here too.
Over 40 states were on the webinar plus four candaian provinces and three international locations.
If you’d like to do another one let me know in the comments box.
P.S. Here’s the feedback survey, we’d love to get your input on the overall experience:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=4YWi_2bXc_2ffDup7HqYTlhbEA_3d_3d
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What Pastors Dream About
I listen to my own sermons. It’s painful, but I do it. I do it because it helps me become a better speaker (late at night it also helps my insomnia).
Church Leader insights is about about to release a Sermon Series Kerrick Thomas (our Executive Pastor) and I did at The Journey Church entitled “Fully Engaged: The Power of a Committed Life,” and last week I was listening to the messages.
As I listened to the message “Fully Engaged in My Church,” I was reminded what I dream about. In this message we challenged the people at The Journey to be fully engaged in our church by taking five actions:
- To take responsibility daily for my spiritual growth.
- To practice contentment in all areas of my life.
- To serve one hour a week in my church.
- To invite one friend a month to church with me.
- To bring the full tithe to God each week.
That’s what I dream about. A church filled with people constantly becoming more and more engaged in our church because they are living out these five commitments. We can’t make people become more committed, but we can dream, and we can work, and we can challenge them in clear and specific way to take steps each week to become more fully engaged.
I like the way The Apostle Paul said it;“We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone perfect in Christ. To this end I labor, struggling with all his energy, which so powerfully works in me.” - Colossians 1:28-29
Keep Dreaming…
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What separates followers from fans of Jesus?
I stole this headline from my friend Bob Franquiz (Advanced Coaching Almuni and all around great guy - but don’t tell him I said so). Bob was our featured speaker at a recent Journey All-Staff meeting and he spoke about the important of baptism. He said:Baptism is what separates fans of Jesus from followers of Jesus!
I stole that line yesterday (Sunday, April 20) and used it at our afternoon Baptism. 28 people took the step! We baptized for almost an hour with two impromptu baptisms (where someone decided at the last minute to step up and be baptized - one went in fully clothed!).
I love being a pastor of a local church!
P.S. If you would like a free baptism video from The Journey just email me under the About CLI tab above or use the Ask Nelson A Question link on the right under my pic and make your request. Be sure to include your mailing address.
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Servants Not Stars is the Goal
Jason has a great new podcast over at Worship Leader Insights.
It’s titled “Creating Servants, Not Superstars - How to Help Your Volunteers Embrace the Role of Servanthood”
Listen or Download online and its FREE!
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Worship Leader Insights Event in Tampa
On Friday (April 18) we had our first Worship Leader Insights event outside of NYC. It was a full house of almost 100 hundred worship leaders to hear Jason teach on “The Top 3 Challenges Every Worship Leader Faces.” It was a great free event that we offerred at no charge to Worship Leaders.
One of the “Top 3 Challenges” was “the Pastor Challenge” - what is that all about? OK, seriously, if anyone
knows how to work with a challenging pastor, its Jason! We’ve been doing church together in NYC since the beginning.I was so proud of him on Friday. He did a great job leading the event. And it was great to meet everyone who attending (including a few Senior Pastor types who snuck into the event).
In case you missed it, check out Worship Leader Insights and Jason’s monthly podcast here.
P.S. Jason’s doing this event again in Midland Park/Pasaaic, NJ on May 9 (Metro NYC) if you are in the area sign up today - its free.
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Fusion Webinar - Download the Notes
I can’t wait for the Fusion Webinar! We have almost 60 people signed-up and its growing by the minute.
1) Here’s the Listeners Guide (notes) for you to download and use as you listen to me on the telephone and follow the slides on your computer with internet access.
Right Click Here and Choose Save As to Download
2) Here’s the Free Strategy Document we promised:
Right Click Here and Choose Save As to Download
Remember, if you have any issues the day of, call 1-800-264-5129.
If you have questions that you’d like me to address during the webinar, send those to this special webinar email - webinar@churchleaderinsights.com (note: this email will be shut down the day after the seminar).
Please be in prayer for me and our team (and everyone who will be on the call and the web with us).
P.S. It’s still not to late to register, click here
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Launch En Espanol
I just found out that my book “Launch:Starting A New Church From Scratch” is being translated into Spanish.
Hola!
OK, now I’ve exhausted the extent of my spanish, even though I had two years in high school (in defense of Mrs. Williams, my teacher, I can read spanish much better than I can speak it!).
I don’t know yet when the translation will be available. The publisher is saying within two years - I guess that says something about the difficultly of translating what Kerrick and I wrote (I’m sure its my parts, not his, that are so problematic).
Either way, its a honor AND its a testimony to how well the book has been received in its English translation. So my BIG THANKS to you for buying the book and spreading the word about it!
Which, btw, if you have a Launch testimony, please send it to me. My email is in the About CLI section above or you can use the Ask Nelson button at the right —>
Adios mis amigos.
Senor Nelson Searcy
Journey Iglesia
P.S. If you are a church planter and you haven’t taken advantage of all the free resources I offer to new church leaders, just click here
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Sneak Preview: Time Management Resource
I’m very excited about a new resource we have coming out in a few weeks, its called:
TIME MANAGEMENT FOR BUSY PASTORS
Here’s a sneak preview of the look.
In this resource I teach 34 time management practices (stuff you can use right now to start saving time). I’ll let you know as soon as its available in the store.
It was unique in that I recorded it in the studio - teaching one principle at a time - instead of ‘in front of a live audience’ like most of my resources. I was very neverous about the outcome but thanks to our super editor, it turned out great!
Also, a big shout out to Coaching Alumni Ben Hodges and his team at 4 Corners for the design.
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What in the World is a Fusion Webinar?
I was looking around my office today and noticed several indispensable techie items that didn’t exist a decade ago. Do you remember when a blackberry was a type of pie? And an iPod was most likely something they put on the moon!
So what in the world is a “Fusion Webinar”?
For the last couple of weeks you’ve been hearing a lot about a “Fusion Webinar” that I’m doing one week from today. The response has been incredible as tons of people have jumped on board with this first of its kind event. At the same time, we’ve received a ton of questions.The word “Fusion” comes from my new book on Assimilation entitled Fusion (thank you for making it a best-seller!) and it’s also the title of seminars we are doing across the country (over 2000 church leaders trained so far…with upcoming events in Houston and Atlanta).
The word “Webinar” is a new word that comes when you combine “seminar”
with the “web.”So basically, we are doing a Fusion seminar via the web - thus, a Fusion Webinar. OK, so that’s almost true.
Actually, the webinar will only be part ‘web.’ The other part will be by phone (think very large conference call). Here’s how it works:
I’ll be in my office in New York City with my computer in front of me and telephone in hand.
You’ll be in your office, home or anywhere you have access to a phone and the internet.
I’ll teach the seminar by talking into the phone and showing slides and images on the computer. At the same time, you’ll hear what I’m saying and see the same slides on your computer. Pretty cool, huh?
Over the last several months, I’ve participated in several of these ‘webinars’ and I have to say that the experience has been ‘almost’ as good as live (not quite, but almost).
Yet, when I think of all the money I saved in travel costs (gas, flights, hotel, etc.) plus the time saved by simply listening to the webinar from my office, it was a trade off that I was willing to make.
The LIVE Fusion Seminars that we (me and my advanced coaching guys) have done have been extremely blessed and the response has been incredible! But since we are all full-time pastors we simply can’t go everywhere and do a seminar in every city.
Thank God for technology! With the webinar, anyone, anywhere in the US or around the world can join us for the same powerful, practical seminar.
Makes sense, right?
Now, you may be asking, “I bet you are going to water down the content for the webinar?”
The answer: NOT AT ALL. In fact, you can actually cover more content during a webinar than you can in a live event because there’s no need for stretch breaks. You’ll be able to get the three hour live seminar during the webinar in ONLY TWO HOURS.
And if you want to snack during the entire seminar or wear your bathrobe, that’s perfectly fine (be as comfortable as you want, just don’t email me any pictures).
“But what about asking questions?”, you ask.
You are right, I will be doing all the talking on the webinar so it’s not as interactive as I’d like but since I’m at my computer (and you are too), I’m going to set-up an email account just for the webinar and you can email me your questions and I’ll do my best to answer them as we go.
So what will I cover during the webinar? Will it be a repeat of what’s in the book or the seminar on CD?
In some ways the webinar will be a review of the book and seminar on CD,, but repetition is the mother of learning!
Plus, over and over I hear in live events that ‘it really came alive’ during the seminar in a way that it didn’t come alive through books or CDs.
Now, to get real practical, I’m going to cover:
- The complete assimilation process necessary to turn first time guests into fully engaged members of your church
- How to WOW first time guests on their first visit
- How to collect the needed info on every first time guest who attends
- How to follow-up on every first time guest so they read what you send them
- How to get first time guests to come back and what to do (and not do!) when they come back
- How to turn regular attenders into members and so much more!In fact, if you don’t like what I cover on the webinar, we will give you 100% of your investment back, no questions or hassles.
OK, OK, I admit, doing a webinar is risky. The devil loves to mess with technology (he seems to be in our sound system every Sunday at The Journey). And there’s a lot that could go wrong but . . .
Doesn’t every good thing in life come with some element of risk?
It’s risky for you to lead your church (we could all be doing something else that’s far less stressful), it’s risky to preach the gospel, it’s risky to try new things . . . but it’s the risk that BRINGS THE REWARD!
So, will you take a risk and join me on the Webinar next week?
Here’s what you need to do . . .
Just follow the link below to register. As soon as you register our website will send you a receipt. Then in the next few days watch for emails from me, Roy Mansfield (who leads Church Leader Insights) or my hard working assistant Lauren Faultless and we’ll send you the details for how you log-in to the webinar, what you need to do to make it successful and what to do if you have any problems.
OK, ready to sign-up? Here’s the link:
http://www.churchleaderinsights.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=235
I look forward to being with you for this first-of-its-kind event.
Thanks for stepping out of your comfort zone. If you have any questions, just click reply.
Your friend,
Nelson
P.S. Maybe you are thinking, “I bet we could get the entire staff to gather around the computer and watch/listen to the webinar.”
OR, maybe you’re thinking, “Maybe I could get my key volunteers to join the webinar and log-on from home or work.” If this is what you are thinking you are on the right track!
Get as many people around one computer and speaker phone as you can or get as many people to sign-up from their home or work computers as possible. That’s the goal! We want to equip as many people as possible to implement an effective assimilation process at your church.
You gotta, love technology, right? OK, I’ve gotta run, I just got a text on my blackberry and my iTunes needs updating! LOL!
One more time, here’s the link to sign-up:
http://www.churchleaderinsights.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=235
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Gas Buy Down in Ohio
Got this from my friend Jeff Calloway at The Bridge Church in Perry, OH.
We’ve been collecting stories from recent “Gas Buy Down” Servant Evangelism projects because we are giving away a resource on the topic.
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Getting Started is the Hardest Part
“The scariest moment is always just before you start.” - Stephen King
Archive for April, 2008
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