Archive for October, 2008

  • Pastor & Worship Pastor Working Together – Part 3

    Originaly Posted on October 22, 2008 Posted in Worship Planning |

    Jason Hatley, Pastor of Worship Arts at The Journey Church in NYC with Nelson Searcy is our guest blogger this week:

    So, how did your homework go from yesterday?  Hopefully you have some clarity on the important relationship between the Pastor and Worship Pastor.

    Since you did so well on yesterday’s homework, today I have a quiz for you.  Of the four choices below, what set of words best describes your  current Pastor/Worship Pastor relationship when it comes to worship planning?

    1.    You do your thing and I’ll do mine.  I’ll see you on Sunday morning.

    2.    We’re not against planning life-transforming worship services together, we just don’t have the structure, system, time and/or resources to do it.

    3.    We are working together to implement some creative elements, but it’s not always consistent.

    4.    We are working together in a structured way to plan in advance, and create relevant, creative, God-honoring, life-transforming worship services every week.

    Ok – so what number did you choose?  Like it or not, getting honest on the answer to that question is the starting point for maximizing the Pastor/Worship Pastor relationship.

    As you might imagine, #4 is the goal, and what I refer to as a Actively Engaged Pastor/Worship Pastor relationship.  In this relationship the pastor and worship pastor are hands on in creating the worship service from start to finish (not just their respective parts).  They are both giving and receiving ideas and feedback on the service.  There is a true synergy to the worship planning process.

    So, if the Actively Engaged Relationship is the goal, how do you get there.  That is the question I will answer in the next two posts.

    For now, answer these two questions:

    1. Which of those four scenarios represents my outlook on planning worship services?

    2. Which of those four scenarios represents my pastors/worship pastors outlook on planning services?

    The key is getting on the same page. Tomorrow, we’ll figure out what page that is!

    Jason

    PS:  Check out the Free Webinar I am doing for Worship Leaders on Thursday, October 30.  Learn how to overcome the Top 3 challenges that every worship leader faces in this 2-hour event.  Visit  www.WorshipLeaderInsights.com/events for more info.

    While you are there, be sure to sign-up for my free monthly newsletter!

  • Pastor & Worship Pastor Working Together – Part 2

    Originaly Posted on October 21, 2008 Posted in Worship Planning |

    Jason Hatley, Pastor of Worship Arts at The Journey Church in NYC with Nelson Searcy is our guest blogger this week:

    Yesterday I began this guest-blogging series by talking the importance of the relationship between the Pastor and the Worship Pastor in planning life-transforming worship services.  In fact, I believe that it is the most important relationship in the church.

    What I’ve found in my ministry and in the coaching and training of worship leaders around the country, is that there is an interesting paradox in this relationship.  Here’s the idea…

    •    The most important relationship in the worship planning process is the Pastor / Worship Pastor relationship.

    •    The greatest tension in the worship planning process tends to be in the Pastor / Worship Pastor relationship.

    It stands to reason then that one of the major reasons why many churches struggle in designing relevant, creative, God-honoring, life-transforming worship services every week is the relationship (or lack there of) between the pastor and the worship pastor.

    Most of the time, the problem is in the area or communication, though it may be any number of things.  Whatever the problem, an ineffective Pastor/ Worship Pastor relationship leads to:

    •    Frustration
    •    Poor worship services
    •    Misplaced expectations
    •    Lack of clarity about the vision
    •    Damaged trust
    •    Loss of friendship

    Just to name a few.

    So what are a Pastor and Worship Pastor to do?

    That’s what tomorrow’s post will focus on.  But before then, I have some homework for you.

    Take 5-10 minutes and write down on a sheet of paper the number of interactions that you have with your pastor or worship pastor every week.  What is the general point of your interactions?  Are there scheduled meetings to discuss worship planning?  If so, what do you bring to those meetings, and what does the other person bring?  What is working and what is not working in your worship planning process right now?

    Answering and discussing these questions will help you understand your role in the process, and most importantly, how the other person sees their role as well.

    Jason Hatley

    PS:  Check out the Free Webinar I am doing for Worship Leaders on Thursday, October 30.  Learn how to overcome the Top 3 challenges that every worship leader faces in this 2-hour event, visit  www.WorshipLeaderInsights.com/events for more info.

    While you are there, be sure to sign-up for my free monthly newsletter!

  • Pastor & Worship Pastor Working Together – Part 1

    Originaly Posted on October 20, 2008 Posted in Worship Planning |

    It is a pleasure to serve as this week’s guest blogger!  My name is Jason Hatley and I serve as the Pastor of Worship Arts @ The Journey, which my wife Karen and I helped start in 2002, and as founder of Worship Leader Insights.

    As the Pastor of Worship Arts, I invest a tremendous amount of my time in creating the weekly worship experiences.

    This is the part where I usually take all of the credit, but since I’m on Nelson’s blog I want to be 100% on the level with you.  I don’t accomplish this on my own.  In fact, if I am serious about our worship services being the very best that they can be every week, I can’t do this on my own.

    It takes a team effort.  That team is founded on the Pastor / Worship Pastor relationship.

    This week I will be talking about how the relationship between Pastor and Worship Pastor is a central issue in planning effective worship services, and I will teach you the four steps to maximizing this relationship, and your worship service planning.

    So, let’s get the ball rolling on this topic by defining worship planning.

    Worship Planning Defined: the process by which the Pastor and Worship Pastor work together to strategically design worship services that are relevant, creative, God-honoring and transformational.

    There are three important distinctives in this definition.

    1. …Pastor and Worship Pastor work together – Do you have a scheduled time for meeting with your pastor or worship pastor to plan, implement and evaluate your worship services?

    2. …design worship services -  Do you have a process for worship planning that can empower you to work with your Pastor / Worship Pastor to plan 6 months to a year out?

    3. …relevant, creative, God-honoring and transformational. – At The Journey these words describe our values for worship services.  What are your values for planning worship services?

    By the end of this series, you will have some insights and systems that will help you maximize the Pastor / Worship Pastor relationship, and ultimately help you plan more effective worship services.

    Jason Hatley

    PS:  Check out the Free Webinar I am doing for Worship Leaders on Thursday, October 30.  Learn how to overcome the Top 3 challenges that every worship leader faces in this 2-hour event, visit   www.WorshipLeaderInsights.com/events.

    While you are there, be sure to sign-up for my free monthly newsletter!

  • Debt Free Day @ The Journey

    Originaly Posted on October 19, 2008 Posted in Worship Planning |

    Today I’m teaching live at all four Journey services in Manhattan.  The topic: How Do I Become Debt Free?

    In all four services we are going to help someone become debt free.  Through the generosity of members in our church we are going to select one person and help pay down their debt. I love it when the church acts like the church!

    I’m passionate about the area of becoming debt free because I know the bondage of debt and the power of being debt free (you can read about my story here…and yes, you can still request the free resource I mention in the post).

    This afternoon we have a membership class – over 65 signed up!

    Should be a fun day….off to the first service,

    Nelson

  • How I Saved $2000

    Originaly Posted on October 18, 2008 Posted in Stewardship |

    In 2003 I had a conversation with Steve Merriman and from that one conversation I saved over $2000 in taxes that year. Steve is the founder of ClergySupport.com (you’ve heard me talk about them in the blog before – they are the ones who cleared me when I was recently audited – you can read about it here).

    I’ve known Steve since my days at Saddleback when he was a consultant for us.  In 2003 he helped me adjust my housing allowance and retirement to match my current reality of living in NYC (and did I mention it saved me over $2000 in taxes).  Steve is a friend, a trusted adviser to our staff and is one of the biggest PRO-ponents of clergy that I know. He is the person I trust with my taxes, retirement and investing.

    On Tuesday, October 21, Steve and his colleagues are holding a free webinar for church staff. I strongly encourage you to attend.  Steve and his team did a similar seminar at our church earlier this year and our staff and a packed room of local pastors found it to be very helpful.  I’m sure you will too.  Here’s the details:

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    Clergy Financial, Inc. would like to invite you, your spouse, and ministry staff to attend our “Tax Basics & Advanced Housing Allowance Strategies” webinar. If you’ve been unable to attend the summer workshops, this is a great way to learn how to maximize your tax benefits and save money on gas at the same time!  It’s also not too late for “year end” tax planning.

    Tuesday, October 21, 2008
    10:00 to 11:00 AM  MST
    Webinar
    (Via the Internet)
    The workshop and all materials are complimentary.  All you need is an hour with a phone and a computer available to gain complete knowledge of “The Greatest Tax Benefit for Ministers and Those Who Qualify”.  You’ll learn tried and true strategies to maximize your housing allowance benefits and keep them during retirement. You’ll also have an opportunity to ask questions in a two-way conversation with our Clergy Tax and Retirement Specialists.
    Why Attend?
    We will cover these topics and more:
    • Lowering your Social Security Tax liability.
    • Social Security Self Employed Status for ministers.
    • Use Housing Allowance for a down-payment on  a new home.
    • What expenses qualify for deductions?
    • Who qualifies as a minister?
    • Understand the Four Tax Rules for Ministers only.

    How to Register

    We hope to hear from you! To register and receive your log-in information and instructions, please email jenny@clergysupport.com.
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    I hope you can make the webinar but even if you can’t, make sure that you have an adviser that is fully versed on the ins and outs of clergy taxes taking care of you.

    Nelson

    P.S. If you decide to participate in the webinar, let them know that I you heard about it from me. Thanks in advance!

  • A Word to Media Pastors

    Originaly Posted on October 17, 2008 Posted in Worship Planning |

    My primary audience for this blog is Senior Pastors, but I know other pastors and church staff sneak a peek from time to time. Today, I want to say a brief word to Media Pastors. (You might want to forward this post to your staff member in charge of media.)

    Over the last 10 months, I’ve had the opportunity to visit about a dozen churches. Every single one of them had some sort of screen or media presence during the service. I was surprised at how many times the image on the screen looked worse than the ‘live image’ I could see on the stage. This has led me to a “Rule for Screen Images” that I’d like to share:

    Rule for Screen Images: The Image on the screen must be better than the live image. If it’s not, you don’t need the screen.

    Screens should always complement and enhance the image attenders are seeing live with their own eyes. (They can also be used for special videos or song lyrics.) Unless I’m sitting in the first few rows of the auditorium, the screens should give me a better picture of the service than I can get by looking at the stage. They should give me a crystal clear image of the worship team or the speaker.

    So why is the image on the screen so poor in most churches?  Here are my thoughts:

    - Bad lighting. I don’t think most church leaders realize just how much lighting it takes for a clear image to be projected on a screen. Most of the churches I visited needed, at minimum, twice as much lighting as they had. My personal observation: if I can stand onstage and see the audience, then the light isn’t bright enough. Crude but true.

    - Awkward camera angles. I’m not talking about the ‘cool camera angle’ you want on the drum solo; I’m talking about a camera angle that distorts the speaker by shooting him too high, too low, or with too much room on one side or the other. These awkward camera angles are usually the result of a remote camera or an untrained operator.

    - Wide zoom or static camera. If the speaker walks off frame of a static camera shot or the camera is zoomed out too far, the screens become useless.

    - Poor equipment. This is a broad one. Either your projector is too old, your camera is outdated or you aren’t using the equipment properly. Either way, the result is a poor image.

    Senior Pastors and Media Pastors: let me challenge you to get the video tape of what is being projected on your screens, watch it on a regular sized television and then ask: If I had to watch this every week, would the quality be high enough?

    I could write another post about how we waste money in the media area by investing in equipment we don’t need when we could get the same result by fully understanding and using the equipment we already own. So I’m not suggesting you go out and spend a bunch of money. Just get some smart people in a room and ask: How can we make a 1 – 5% improvement in our media area this week? Little steps taken consistently over time can make a huge difference.

    Nelson

    P.S. If you are media pastor and you’ve been trying to get your Senior Pastor to invest in improving your area, feel free to forward him this post!

  • What Keeps People in Church?

    Originaly Posted on October 16, 2008 Posted in Assimilation |

    My friend John Donahue from Stone Point Church had a great post recently that really challenged me. Check it out:

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    Numerous books, magazine articles, and blog posts have been written to address the theories behind why people stay or leave a church. And while each church has its own unique flavors which influence people’s decisions, I believe that there are 3 major factors that transcend denomination, worship style, or ministry style.

    Nelson Searcy over at Church Leader Insights focuses on 2 factors that influence people staying at a church. He says that it’s based on people’s RELATIONSHIP and their RESPONSIBILITY. If a person has those 2 needs met, they will stay in a church. Not trying to completely disagree with Nelson, I think that there is one other factor – RIGHTEOUSNESS. There MUST be a GOD factor as well.

    For the sake of our discussion, let me break all this down…

    Relationship- Relationship is a simple concept. People must be connected with other people for them to feel that they are TRULY “in” the church. If people are not connected RELATIONALLY, the feelings of disconnectedness will eventually lead then away from the church that they desperately want/need to be a part of.

    Responsibility - Responsibility would be the functions we perform at church. You might say, “I am a Greeter,” or “I am in charge of Parking at the 9:30 service.” Responsibility is what compels us to attend each week. It’s a conviction for us. When people have a “job” or “duty” that is required of them, they have ownership of their area of service. It’s also MUCH harder to walk away from a church if you are plugged in to an area that is in line with your gifts, talents, and passions. If you are at a church, and you have no responsibility, you are much more likely leave than if you had it.

    And for many churches, they focus on those 2 factors alone in trying to discern church attendance. I believe that churches must also focus on a person’s Righteousness as well as their responsibilities and their relationships.

    Here is how I unpack the Righteousness factor:

    A person starts to attend your church. They are far away from God, and they discover a Savior, accept God as Lord of their life, and get baptized. Then, they sign up to be in a small group… They are very close to their small group, but start to resent issues at the church and become disillusioned with “organized” religion.  After a few months, they begin to miss a Sunday or two, and then, after more absences, they eventually disappear for good. They even stay in contact with some of the members of their small group, but they feel compelled to go to a church that is “deeper”.

    Righteousness + Relationship – Responsibility = LEAVE CHURCH

    Another person starts attending, has already accepted Christ, and immediately gets plugged in to the Children’s Ministry. They faithfully serve week in, a week out. They don’t attend regular services very freqauently due to their ministry obligations, nor do they have time for a small group, but they are your “go to” childcare people. They don’t have many friends outside of the children’s department, but hey, everyone is busy. Eventually, that person begins to “burn out” and decides to “take a break.” Then, you never see them again.

    Righteousness + Responsibility-Relationship = LEAVE CHURCH

    So what is the answer? Try this on…

    A person gets a mailer in the mail, and decides to try your church on a Sunday. That person (visitor) is greeted by a friendly person who shows them around the church, introduces them to some other friendly people, and after the service, that same greeter seeks [the visitor] out and encourages them to come back.

    The following Sunday, that SAME greeter welcomes the visitor back and asks about their previous week’s experience. Then that SAME greeter invites them to come WITH THEM to attend an upcoming event.

    So this person comes to the event, and has a great time. Another person, who the greeter had introduced earlier, sees the visitor at this event and asks them to help out with the set-up team on the following Sunday Morning. And after serving a couple of times, is asked to get into a rotation. That visitor LOVES the experience and serves every other week.

    And after several weeks in a small group that meets on Thursday nights, they give their life to Christ. They then go on witness to their spouse and kids, and soon, the whole family is serving, deeply connected to friends, and experiencing God in amazing ways.

    Righteousness + Relationship + Responsibility = STAYS IN CHURCH

    We, as church leaders, MUST focus on the people who God brings us. We MUST find out how to connect with them on 3 deep levels, relationship, responsibility, and righteousness. If any of those three factors get out of balance, that person has the potential to get hurt or leave the church.

    [John would like to offer special thanks to Scott Whitaker, Pastor of StonePoint Church in Newnan, GA.]

    Read the full post by clicking here

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    Thanks, John, for your insights!  I love this kind of discussion.

    Nelson

  • Why I Do Coaching…

    Originaly Posted on October 15, 2008 Posted in Church Systems - General |

    Today, I’m in Tampa for my Senior Pastor’s Coaching Network. On the flight down, I found myself thinking: Why do I do this? Why do I take a day away from home to fly a thousand miles to invest in coaching? Once I started asking these questions, they kept coming: Why am I driven to do a NY Coaching Network plus a Tele-Coaching Network? Why do I push the folks at CLI to offer quality coaching for Worship Leaders, Church Planters, Executive Pastors and Small Group Pastors?

    From time to time, it’s good for us to ask ourselves such “Why do I do what I do?” questions.

    Here’s the conclusion I came to 30,000 feet in the air: I’m addicted to the results that these coaching networks produce for the pastors who participate!

    Yep, I’m addicted to net Kingdom growth. I love evangelism; I love church growth and I love pastors.

    In the four years that I’ve been doing coaching networks I’ve seen:

    - churches double in size in six months to a year.
    - churches that have been in decline for 30 years start to grow again.
    - pastors regain a passion for evangelism and church growth.
    - big rewards from little tweaks in a church’s systems.
    - pastors grow and find balance in their lives, while leading a growing church.
    - church planters launch with over 300 people.
    - pastors avoid major mistakes because they received input and guidance from the network.
    - pastors make lifelong friends by being around like-minded pastors.

    Plus so many more incredible things… pastors lead their churches to over 100% adult participation in groups; Executive Pastors avoid hiring disasters; Worship Leaders get on the same page as their pastors and…. well, you get the picture.

    All over the country I meet pastors who say, “I’ve heard about your coaching network and I’ve been meaning to get involved.” Well, now is your chance!

    The coaching networks we offer are unique. Here’s why:

    1) Each is based on a proven system that has delivered personal and church growth to all types of pastors and churches. (In other words, there’s a specific agenda we will work each month. We aren’t just making this up as we go, or spinning our wheels each month with nothing to say).

    2) All of our networks are positively focused on church growth (not on blaming our denomination or our rehashing our past mistakes).

    3) Each network is led by a practitioner who is leading daily in the area they are teaching you about. (For example, our church planter networks are led by church planters who have launched within the last few years; I lead the Senior Pastor Networks and I’m neck-deep in the daily leadership of The Journey, etc.)

    Several major Coaching Networks are starting between now and early 2009. This is the time to request more info so that your application can receive priority treatment. Here are the coaching networks slated for early 2009:

    - Senior Pastor Coaching Networks with me in NYC and Tampa, FL (Starts early 2009)

    - Small Groups Tele-Coaching Network with Kerrick Thomas (New Network!)

    - Church Planting Tele-Coaching Network with Bob Franquiz (Starting Dec 2008!)

    - Worship Leader Tele-Coaching Network with Jason Hatley (Pass this along to your worship leader)

    If you are interested in receiving an application for any of these networks, send an email to cristina@churchleaderinsights.com and let her know which one interests you.

    Four years ago, I was invited by a good friend to co-lead a network with him. Since then I’ve coached over 400 pastors. I’m just as addicted to the Kingdom results of these networks as I was after that first Church Planting Network. I can only believe that God is going to continue to do even greater things through these networks in the future. I hope you’ll join me for the ride!

    Nelson

  • Challenge Others Toward Godly Stewardship – Pastor’s Financial Life: Part 5 of 5

    Originaly Posted on October 14, 2008 Posted in Stewardship |

    Today, I’m wrapping up my five-part miniseries on the pastor’s financial life. I want to conclude by asking you to make this fourth and final commitment:

    4 – I commit to challenging others toward Godly stewardship.

    Most pastors make the mistake of being too timid in the area of stewardship. We aren’t afraid to challenge our congregations on many other aspects of their spiritual growth, but we often shrink back from discussions of money. Please don’t let this be true of you.

    The Bible speaks so frequently about stewardship that we just can’t ignore the subject with our people. And the fact is, once you’ve made the other commitments we’ve discussed over the last week, you’ll have the moral authority to address stewardship head on.  With this moral authority and Biblical imperative, there’s no reason you need to shy away from challenging your congregation to:

    - Make a commitment to being debt free for the rest of their lives.
    - Make a commitment to always giving more than a tithe.
    - Make a commitment to living out Biblical stewardship.

    If you missed the earlier installments of this “Pastor’s Financial Life” miniseries, use these links to check them out:  Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 and Part 4.

    I hope you have found this miniseries both challenging and encouraging. Let’s all commit to leading the Stewardship charge in our churches.

    Nelson

    P.S. Today is the last chance to take me up on my offer to receive a free copy of my resource “Debt Free Pastor: Free Yourself to Lead Your Church.” Just email cristina@churchleaderinsights.com with the subject line “Debt Free Pastor” and we’ll send you a free download.

  • Monday Proflections – October 13, 2008

    Originaly Posted on October 13, 2008 Posted in Misc |

    Here’s what’s happening with Church Leader Insights and me that may be of interest to you:
    Monday – It’s Columbus Day here in the states and I’m wrapping up a long weekend with Kelley and Alexander.

    Tuesday- Watch for your Church Leader Insights monthly newsletter today with seven helpful articles and two book reviews.  Make sure you have info@churchleaderinsights.com in your address book so it doesn’t go to spam.  If you aren’t getting our newsletter, click here to sign up.  It’s free.

    WednesdayJason will be teaching his new One Day Worship Leader Intensive today in Tampa, FL.  It’s not too late to sign up by clicking here.

    Thursday- Tele-Coaching Call #3 is today at 1:00pm.  I’ll also be putting the final touches on this Sunday’s message.

    Friday- I’ll be finalizing the application for my next Live Coaching Networks that will begin in Jan/Feb 2009 in both NYC and Tampa.  Are you interested?  If so, send an email to cristina@churchleaderinsights.com for priority information.

    Saturday- Kerrick and I will be putting the final touches on the notes for our new Activate Seminar (a totally revised Small Groups seminar).  The next Live Activate Seminar is Thursday, October 22 in NYC.  A few spots are still available.  Click here for more info.

    Thanks for reading my blog!  If you have any church leadership questions for me, just use the Ask Nelson button on the right.  So far, I’ve been able to answer almost all of your questions by email or here in the blog.

    Nelson

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